this week i had the priviledge of getting together with some ex-jw's on 2 different occasions.
during the week a friend that i know from email and an ex-jw support email group came to my area for a work conference.
it was so great to finally meet her and talk.
Littletoe,
I still can't get him to read C of C...he looked at it when I first started trying to get him to see the Troof about the Troof...and he completely shut down to it.
I wouldn't be surprised if he equates it in the same league as the Satanic Bible by Anton LeVay....
He feels Mr. Franz is angry but I never got that feeling at all from the book.
WG
this week i had the priviledge of getting together with some ex-jw's on 2 different occasions.
during the week a friend that i know from email and an ex-jw support email group came to my area for a work conference.
it was so great to finally meet her and talk.
Thank you CYP -
My friend that we had dinner with this week was actually once a member of the World Wide Church of God and she talked about that a little bit but I don't think it was enough to settle into his head for him to see the similarities.
He still doesn't consider the WTS a cult...the moonies are a cult to him. But not this Jehovah fearing people who are just trying to do their best...blah blah blah.
WG
this week i had the priviledge of getting together with some ex-jw's on 2 different occasions.
during the week a friend that i know from email and an ex-jw support email group came to my area for a work conference.
it was so great to finally meet her and talk.
Hi M.J.
I know I should be so happy about how far he has come. I think I'm just feeling down because he doesn't feel the organization is imperfect...just imperfect people in the org who are messing things up!
I want to pull out my hair and scream....
One step forward 2 steps back - that's what its always been.
I know I need to be more positive and just be happy now we/he aren't going to 3 horrid meetings a week!
WG
i have been here for almost 3 months now and was curious what ya'll did for fun outside of jwd.com.
right now because it's summer and it's too hot i don't do much glassblowing.
but that is where i spend most of my weekends when i'm not working.
I have 2 little ones under the age of 5...so spare time is a hot commodity.
But when I can...I read, quilt and we also all go hiking together.
this week i had the priviledge of getting together with some ex-jw's on 2 different occasions.
during the week a friend that i know from email and an ex-jw support email group came to my area for a work conference.
it was so great to finally meet her and talk.
This week I had the priviledge of getting together with some ex-jw's on 2 different occasions.
During the week a friend that I know from email and an ex-jw support email group came to my area for a work conference. It was so great to finally meet her and talk. I brought my husband and kids along and everything went great. She has her life really going well and she hasn't become one of the crazy ex-jw's that I have met. You know...I like to call them the ranting fanatics.
Then Saturday night we went and had dinner - hubby, me, 2 boys - with people my husband knew from his old hall. They are disassociated by their actions because they had a wreath on their door around the holidays...and it wasn't even a Christmas wreath. Also very nice people who have things going well for them. None of their kids are rapists, murderers, drunk drivers. They both have jobs and are super nice. They are very moral and not hurting anyone. They have moved on. They lost all their lifelong friends when they left and don't even want to hear about the JW's because after they left they researched and now feel as though they were duped all those years.
So after these 2 meetings my Darling Husband and I are talking and he was asking questions about the UN scandal and about the people we had seen this week.
We were talking...okay, mainly I was talking about how to me the JW's aren't right as far as being a Christian Organization and why I still want no part of them...
My husband responded that even though he doesn't want to talk to any elders or go to meetings - he feels Jehovahs Witnesses are the only people on earth doing what they are doing and living in accordance with the Bible... so they must be right. His explaination was a little longer - but that was the jist of it.
It left me feeling very discouraged and I feel like he is going to eventually go back. Probably not anytime soon, but I would bet Las Vegas money that he will start studying again or go to a memorial.
I feel very sad because I really want him to feel as I do about the JW's. I want him to stop defending them and saying good things about them. I want us to be on the same page about this and until we are I don't feel that we are really doing okay.
We've been together over 7 + years and I just feel like this stupid religion is always going to be between us.
I know some will say I could just let this all go and not freak out if he goes back to the hall or becomes active in the org again...but honestly I could not live with him if he went back. I wouldn't trust him or the ineveitable people that would come around...I'd be angry all the time.
I also know we've come a long way. He will now look at the so - called Apostate websites and information I show him. He will discuss things with me and I can be calm and not become maniacal in my arguements - the boys medical decisions are all up to me. So these are positive things.
I'm just feeling sad about his statement.
Thanks for letting me share this I think the people on this site are truly some of the only ones who may understand what I am feeling.
WG
anyone who's a fan of prince will recognize that through out much of his music, there has been a spiritual connect in his lyrics, with several references to god.
there are some who have had prior knowledge of the truth but didn't let on until later in their life.
larry grahm of "grahm central station" fame was somewhat illusive as to his connection to the truth at the start of his musical carrer.
I was just thinking the other day as I was listening to an old music compilation CD I made that I wish Prince would go back to his old dirty sexy self....sigh.
I think he's always been a searcher...searching for something because of his deep seeded inner demons. If it wasn't the JW's it would have been something else.
Just my 2 cents.
WG
hey,.
my partner in life (26yrs) has been converted to jw by his mother.. i am not one to whine -as very aware many have more troubles in their life.. i suppose one of my fears has been this exactly- as i know he was raised jw and should have saw the "signs.
" he always regularly visited with his mom, which i respected as felt a good sign he had a mother/son relationship.
Hi Freefly -
Been there
Done that
Bought the t-shirt &
Sold the movie rights....
With that said. I am still married to my husband who went back to the KH and in the beginning put me through absolute hell and mental anguish that I am sure you can relate to.
It's been 7+ years for me and my husband is just now stating he doesn't consider himself a Jehovahs Witness any longer.
I notice he gets all wierd though whenever his mother interferes in our relationship and she will just not give up. I hate her.
We have 2 sons and I have laid down the line in the sand that they will not be taught anything about the WTS or I will leave and he will not see us again. He knows I am a woman of my word.
If I can be of any help please feel free to send me a private message - I know how stressful living in this kind of situation can be. Sometimes you just want to run away and other times you want to scream at them for being so stupid and bringing this crap into your life.
Big hugs to you,
WG
hi, my name is amarantha.
i'm new to the board.
can anyone please tell me what the current disfellowshipping standards are?
Welcome!
You would probably only be disfellowshipped if your current beliefs don't coincide with the WTS teachings and if you were unwilling to come back to the hall and be an active JW.
Also, if you committed or admitted to commiting any acts the current Elders considered against Jehovah - smoking, sexual immorality...etc.
I think the WTS is cleaning house again because we have had Elders coming after my husband fast and furious...he's been away 3 years and for over 10+ years before that.
Good luck in whatever you decide and also realize you aren't in this alone...what you choose to do effects the rest of your family if they are JW's.
WG
what is it with the majority of inlaws that seem to thrive on making your life hell???
?my fiance's mother is really getting to me ive put up with a year of her opinions thrown in my face and year of her telling me how to raise my son.
she has completely taken over our wedding day and at our engagement her daughter who is also my bridesmaid turned up 2 hours late to our engagement party drunk and brought her friends and had her own little party, it aslso took her another hour to come and say hi to me!!!
Believe me it could always be worse...My MIL is cookoo.
She talks about suicide and rape in front of my children and her other grandchildren like it's an appropriate conversation for their tender ears. She makes up lies about me. She has at least 3 different people living inside of her...
On top of it she's an academy award winning actress who makes all the other jw's think she's some perfect little victimized saint.
I'll trade ya!
Better get your future hubby to lay down the law now and and make sure he tells Mumsy it was his idea and not yours...otherwise the rest of your life is going to be hellish.
I feel for you....
Maybe you could move far far away from her...
Good luck!
i love giving and helping people.
makes me feel good.. how about you, do you ever help out people out of pure agape love?.
giving time or money, without expecting anything back in return?
Sunspot,
I am a quilter so I have made lots of quilts for Projectlinus.org. It is such a worthy organization - giving the blanket hugs to kids.
The kids love the blankets and if it makes there day a little better that is the best!
WG
